September 29, 2003

My sound'll make you jump around like calypso

Whoooo. Nothing like a packet of Emergen-C (half of which I spilled all over my keyboard while pouring it into the water bottle--Jesus, it's a wonder any of my friends let me near their cocaine) to quell the aftereffects of an evening spent drinking glass after glass of Valpolicella while puzzling over HBO's new fall lineup (ie, going to bed, drunk and weary, at 10:15).

I think the Antic Muse is, as usual, right fuckin' on in her assessment of Vice magazine, and, in particular, Vanessa Grigoriadis' obsequious prattling on the topic in the Sunday Styles section of the Times:

But, seriously, I don't understand why anyone should be either defensive about or shocked by hipster conservatism. Being cool or hip is, by its nature, conservative: Exclusionary, status-seeking, rule-bound, elitist and devoted to, yes, conserving a specific set of ideas and principles. The only difference between the editorial board of Commentary and that of Vice is the size of their bar tabs at the Pink Pony.
To which I'd like to add a few things:
  • Maybe the Times should consider a moratorium on Greek-American writers. I mean, there's barely enough hate in my heart for both VG and Anemona Hartocollis.

  • I am willing to admit that Vice is, on occasion, funny. It's still a piece of shit: I get a kick out of the fact that it's marketed toward the hippest 18-25 year olds yet it's helmed by 3 pudgy, balding 35-year-olds. At the Creativity Now! conference, Whatshisface, the one who is not Gavin McInnes or that other guy, said that Vice maintains some level of moral legitimacy because they don't accept cigarette ads. Yeah fuckin' right. We're still talkin' about the magazine that once had an embossed coke-on-mirror cover, right? And McInnes ain't no Jim Goad, though I do hear he's impressively endowed. Where was I goin' with this? Anyhow.

  • In my estimation, Sarah Silverman has officially gone from being Okay for a chick to Pretty much a cunt status,* after she was quoted as saying "If you think Vice is misogynistic, then you are a self-centered white woman." No, Sarah, you are. And you're dating an adenoidal, pearshaped man-child who probably grunts a lot during sex. So HA!

  • This deserves its own bulletpoint: With regard to Sarah Silverman, I *do* think she's funny. But what she says is unfairly championed as Comedy Genius because a)she's female and b)she's attractive. It's a rare Boolean lineup--funny AND attractive AND woman. Plus, it's the only time** in which being a woman is actually advantageous, because each of the first two factors is enhanced by the other three: She's funnier because she's female and pretty! She's prettier because she's funny and a girl! Trust me on this; I know: I work this angle at cocktail parties all the time (throw some alcohol into the above equation and I become Ogden Nash and Groucho Marx in Famke Jenssen's body).

I had other points to make, but whatthefuckever. Ah, blissful, blissful hate.

*Which is actually quite an achievement, seeing as the only other people in that category so far are Courtney Love, Ann Coulter, Sofia Coppola, and a certain woman whose name I won't mention for fear of a libel lawsuit but who published very unflattering things about yours truly in our college paper's gossip column (the same column that launched Jared Stern into fame, I might add) and also announced to a roomful of people that I had a third nipple. I have procured pictures of her taken minutes after the birth of her baby, if anyone's interested.

**Well, that and being on a sinking ship when the lifeboats come around.

Posted by Dana at September 29, 2003 11:24 AM
Comments

I read Vice once while having a slice of pizza. It just seemed like "cruelty chic," to me. Compassionless meanness without a point. Made we wanna spend an afternoon teaching hadicapped children to crochet bible covers. and for a cynical offense-proof asshole like me that's saying a lot.

Posted by: jonmc at September 29, 2003 02:27 PM

Just curious, but what's the deal with Sophia Coppola?

Posted by: maccers at September 29, 2003 05:29 PM

Just curious, but what's the deal with Sophia Coppola?

We hate her.

Posted by: dana at September 29, 2003 09:09 PM

We feel the same way about Sarah Silverman.

Posted by: dong resin at September 30, 2003 08:15 AM

Can we feel the same way about Arundhati Roy?

Posted by: Fes at September 30, 2003 10:29 AM

in the current Bust, sarah silverman whines about how she shouldn't have to explain her comedy, then she goes on to mention that alot of people "don't get it" and think she's funny because she's racist.

she also says that the asshole frat-boy crowd that likes the man show is the same. that the man show was poking fun at those guys (duh), but now it's helping create this culture of complete douchebags.

so why would you continue, if your message is lost, like, 90% of the time?
is the 10% that gets it really enough to justify validating a world of assholes?

it seems borderline irresponsible. sure, she and kimmel can say "we do it for the people who get it". but because they make their entire income on it, and because most people (easily) misinterpret it, they're no longer doing it for integrity's sake.

Posted by: erin at September 30, 2003 12:47 PM

she also says that the asshole frat-boy crowd that likes the man show is the same.... but now it's helping create this culture of complete douchebags.

Hell, I find the man show amusing sometimes. And perhaps the people who enjoy it get irked at being thought of as "asshole frat-boys" and "douche bags." Plus, the 'culture' existed long before this harmless dopey show came about.

The more 'high minded' comedy's (and a lot of other culture) whole shtick is built around contempt for(and the implication that the performer and audience is superior to) whole groups of people ("frat boys," "rednecks," "suburbanites"). Is it any surprise that they concocted an antidote?

It'd be lot a lot better for you, if you'd just admit that you wish it didn't exist because you don't enjoy it.

It's comedy. Either everybody's fair game or nobody is.

As long as it's funny.

Posted by: jonmc at September 30, 2003 02:22 PM

no, fes, we can't.

Posted by: grainne at September 30, 2003 06:14 PM

I just rented "School of Rock" and I'm afraid the only nice thing I can say about Sarah S. is that she's female. She's not especially attractive and she is the opposite of funny. Jack Black is a genius, but whenever SS and Mike White come on the screen, the movie grinds to a halt. She is like a nuclear fart in a blooming rose garden. She's been drinking the Garofalo Kool-Aid, I guess.

Posted by: Jimmy Beck at April 22, 2004 12:19 PM